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The fascinating ambiguity or the challenge of this conversation is as we mentioned yesterday that whereas when it comes to behaviors when it comes to animals highest fish the Torah gives explicit simanim what makes an animal kosher what makes an 2:37 animal non-kosher when it comes to birds pretty much all we have is a list of 24 non-kosher birds. 2:44 That's what we have. 2:45 Now the Shulchan Aruch just says what do we do with that list? 2:48 So the Gemara highlighted the idea that essentially what we do is we find four unique qualities characteristics by kosher birds. 2:56 Number one they have quote unquote that extra toe. 2:59 Number two number two they have a they have a a crop. 3:04 Number three the gizzard peels very easily and number four ain odoris they don't grab and eat. 3:11 They don't grab and eat. 3:12 Okay so we'll say so on the other hand we see also non-kosher birds don't have those simanim. 3:18 The challenge of course that we run into is in that list of 24 birds there's only one of them that has none of those qualities that's the nesher. 3:26 That's the nesher. Then we have the orev that has the raven two of those qualities and then the peres and ozniyah which have one of those qualities. 3:36 So the so so this creates an entire sense of ambiguity exactly what is our rule set. 3:45 To compound the problem to compound the problem is that there are many birds listed in that list that we don't know the definition of what they are. 3:51 Right? It's It's not clear. 3:53 It's not clear from their biblically given names exactly what type of species of bird this is. 4:00 Okay, so that's that's kind of the challenge the bird challenge. 4:03 It doesn't sound very appealing. 4:04 But instead, the bird challenge of information that we are in the middle of right now. 4:08 The Gamara just happens to end off with another piece of information. 4:10 The Gamara says aleatorin the casa rahman al awwali. 4:13 So, why does the Torah go out of its way to say torin? 4:16 Now, if you look at Rashi, Rashi is about 12 lines up from the bottom in Rashi. 4:21 Aleatorin the casa rahman al awwali how will the law be night who yafinan? 4:24 So, again, what's interesting is we're going to both say when Torah speaks about torin, so remember we have we usually have torin and bene yona. 4:33 So, torin torin as we usually go ahead and translate as turtle doves, bene yona young pigeons. 4:39 Although even those definitions are a little bit are a little bit fluid. 4:43 So, here's this interesting. 4:44 It's not like when the Torah says torin that's giving us the list of kosher birds because the list of kosher birds is really good means from what? 4:51 Whatever's not on the list of non-kosher birds. 4:53 In other words, if you're a non-kosher bird, you're listed. 4:56 If you're not one of those 24 guys, you're good to go. 4:59 So, why did the Torah go out of its way to to list torin? 5:02 To which the Gamara says am Rabbi Amora Ukva Amora Ukva bar Chama le carbon. 5:07 It's actually the listing of torin in the Torah is for a totally different reason. 5:10 It's actually not to tell us that the torin bird is kosher cuz that I could get from the fact that it's not listed amongst the 24 non-kosher birds. 5:17 Torin is listed in the Torah ultimately again to teach us that it is the bird that is used for carbonic service. 5:23 Look at Rashi. Le carbon shayin lavadon shayin le carbon velo of acher. 5:29 It is only the torin that is fit for use as a carbon and not any other bird. 5:33 Now, of course, that's what what that statement is not totally true cuz remember again there's there's the bene yona. 5:38 But the idea that the Gamara is highlighting is that torin is usable for a carbon because the Torah goes out of its way to highlight it. 5:44 Okay, let's go back there. 5:46 Amram Nachman. Amram Nachman says follows. 5:48 So we'll say now very interesting halakha, top of samach bet. 5:51 Haya baki bahen ubishmo say hen. 5:54 So what it says here is what's interesting. 5:55 So remember, we're focusing now for a moment on the peres and ozniya. 6:00 Now, again, we don't know the definition of those birds, but here's what I do know is they possess one of the four qualities of kosher birds. 6:08 Now, exactly which one also the gemara doesn't indicate because obviously again, if I'm not sure what the bird is, I'm also not sure what the quality is, but I know that it I know that it possesses one of the characteristics 6:19 of kosher birds. Okay, so now watch this. 6:21 So Nachman says, if you are a baki, let's say you're a guy and you know exactly which birds the peres and ozniya are. 6:29 You know exactly what they are. 6:31 And what happened? Of avot siman acher. 6:33 And then there's another bird that comes before you and it has one kosher characteristic. 6:39 What's the halakha? Tahor. 6:41 And again, we'll say this is very interesting. 6:42 See, the gemara is operating with the understanding that there is there are only two birds that are non-kosher that have one kosher characteristic. 6:52 It's it's an anomaly. 6:53 And that's why the Torah lists them. 6:55 The peres and ozniya. 6:56 Therefore, Nachman says, if you know for sure what the peres or which what what the peres and ozniya birds are, you know for sure which birds they are. 7:04 And then someone brings a bird before you and that bird has one kosher characteristic, but it's not the peres and ozniya, then what? 7:11 You can eat it. 7:13 You can eat it. 7:14 Fascinating. To which the gemara says, lo haya baki badam ubishmo say hen. 7:18 But if you're not an expert in terms of which bird is the peres, which bird is the ozniya, and what happens and one brings before you a bird with one kosher siman, then ultimately say bisiman achad, tame. 7:29 And if one brings before you a bird with one kosher siman, you can't eat the bird. 7:33 Why can't you eat the bird? 7:34 Why? Because it may be the peres or ozniya. 7:38 Similarly, bishnei simanim tahor v'hu shiyakir oref. 7:43 Listen to this. Same idea. 7:45 Let's say someone brings before you a bird, right? 7:47 And that bird has two kosher Simanim. 7:49 And you know for sure which bird is the oref. 7:52 Now we get a bossim, well what do you think about the oref? 7:54 The oref is the one bird on the list that has two kosher Simanim. 7:58 So someone brings a bird before you and it has two kosher Simanim. 8:02 You know for sure that this bird is not an oref. 8:05 You can eat the bird. 8:07 You can eat the bird because again, oref is the only non-kosher bird with two Simanim. 8:11 And therefore Halacha L'Maiseh you can go you know for sure that this is a bird that this is a kosher bird. 8:17 To which the Gemara says, oref v'sulo. 8:20 That's it. In other words, is oref the is oref the only kosher bird? 8:24 Is oref the only bird ultimately again with is oref the sorry, is oref the only non-kosher bird with two Simanim? 8:34 But Tanya we learn, oref zeh oref. 8:37 So right, when the possuk says oref, that means oref. 8:39 Okay. I think we could all follow that drasha, right? 8:42 Let me know. But here's what else what the possuk says. 8:44 Says an oref l'mino, which means according to its kind, according to its species. 8:48 What does that mean? 8:49 Rabbi Eliezer Omer, l'havi es hazarzir. 8:53 So Rabbi Eliezer says, there's another bird included in the oref family, which is the zarzir. 8:59 Again, I will say remember what's complicated in this Sugya is the lack of clear definitions for these birds. 9:05 But there's this other bird called the zarzir. 9:08 And the zarzir like the oref also has two kosher Simanim. 9:12 So we see again that it's not just the oref, it's the zarzir. 9:15 Amar lo Rabbi Eliezer, v'lo anshik parta marta sh'bi Yehuda haya ochlin osa. 9:20 Listen to this. But yet, so they said to Rabbi Eliezer, Rabbi Eliezer, you're saying the zarzir is not a kosher bird. 9:25 Here's the problem. Here is the problem. 9:28 The people who lived in the village of Tamarta, which was in the tribal area of Yehuda, used to eat this zarzir. 9:36 They eat the zarzir. 9:37 Why? Because she eats lahen zafak. 9:40 Because the zarzir had a crop that was indicative they felt that it was a kosher bird and therefore they ate it. 9:45 But Rebbe Eliezer is saying you can't eat a zarzir because a zarzir is part of the orev family. 9:51 Am lo hen Rebbe Eliezer responded, "Af hin asidin litin asadin." 9:55 Oh, they're they're going to they're going to have to stand judgement for that. 9:58 And Rebbe Eliezer says, "Shkak, I know they do it." 10:00 And we'll say, "This is a very important piece of information. 10:03 Just because someone does something doesn't make it right. 10:06 And just because a lot of people do something doesn't make it right." 10:09 So they say to Rebbe Eliezer, "The people of the people of Tamarta are eating this zarzir bird." 10:14 Rebbe Eliezer says, "Yeah, I know and that's really terrible. 10:17 And after 120 they're going to have to give an accounting for why they are consistently consuming this non-kosher bird. 10:23 Davar acher, the other possibility is liminehu lahavi sinunis levana de Rebbe Eliezer. 10:29 Others say that what is what is the meaning of it? 10:31 Again, we'll say to remember. 10:32 So so just a follow the chain of thought over here, right? 10:36 Rav Nachman is coming along and Rav Nachman is introducing something very interesting. 10:40 That there are certain unique kosher non-kosher birds that are only non-kosher because the Torah says they're not kosher. 10:46 So for example, so for example, the peres and the oznia have one kosher siman. 10:50 So Rav Nachman says, "If you know for sure which is the peres and the oznia birds and someone brings before you another bird that is not peres and the oznia that has one kosher siman, that is a kosher bird. 11:00 If you don't know which one is peres and the oznia, you can't eat the bird because that bird that they're showing you may be the peres and the oznia. 11:05 Similarly, someone goes ahead and brings you a bird with two kosher simanim. 11:09 Right now the only bird in that list of non-kosher birds that has two kosher simanim is the orev. 11:14 And you know for sure which bird is an orev and that bird that they brought before you is not it, that's kosher and you can eat it." 11:20 To which the Gemara says, "Hold up. 11:22 There are other things in the orev family because the pasuk the Torah says ve'et ha'orev limino. 11:28 Limino means for a species there are other things included." 11:32 So now like the Masha's going through the other potential things included in the orave family. 11:37 Another possibility, liminehu or limineu. 11:39 What does it mean it says the orave limineu? 11:41 Lahavi sinunus lavana. This comes to include the white sinunus. 11:46 That the white sinunus bird is also in the same category as the orave and therefore is also dever Rabbi Eliezer. 11:52 Amru lo, they said to him, "Balo, anshei galil elyon ochlim oso." 11:57 One second. The people of galil eat the white sinunus. 12:01 Why? Bipnei shekek shekarkabano niklaf. 12:05 Because its gizzard is easily peeled. 12:07 And if its gizzard is peeled, so bepashutus, what does that mean? 12:10 What does that mean? 12:11 That is a kosher bird. 12:12 To which Rabbi Eliezer responds, "Okay, they're doing the wrong thing. 12:15 Ah, I'm I'm amru lahem, af hein asidin likin asadin." 12:20 They'll also stand in judgment for that. 12:23 I will say that I'll just point out something very interesting. 12:25 If you notice his loshon over here of "af hein asidin likin asadin." 12:30 We find this expression in the Gemara. 12:31 When someone's doing something wrong, so again, the person saying, "Okay, they'll have to stand judgment for that." 12:37 Why doesn't Rabbi Eliezer just say they're doing something wrong? 12:40 Say Rabbi Eliezer, "So, from here you see something very profound, which is just the sensitivity with which you have to speak about another Jew, even if that other Jew is doing something wrong, right? 12:50 Rabbi Eliezer could have said, "They're eating treif. 12:53 They're eating treif." It's not what he says. 12:54 He says, "Okay, after 120, they'll stand judgment. 12:57 We all stand judgment for the lives that we lead in this world." 13:01 So, after 120, they'll stand judgment as well. 13:03 Very profound. Rabbi Eliezer is saying, "I'm not the judge. 13:06 I I think what they're doing is wrong, but I don't need to say it. 13:10 After 120, Hakadosh Baruch Hu will decide who's doing right and who's doing wrong. 13:15 But at the end of the day, I'm not standing in judgment of another Jew." 13:18 I will say, what a what a what a profound lesson, especially like erev three weeks, erev shiva asar b'Tammuz, where so much we mourn so much over the course of the three weeks. 13:27 And what we mourn is so clearly, fundamentally rooted, at least initially, in what we do to each other. 13:34 And one of the easy Easy, nothing's easy. 13:37 But one of the one of the the simple ways in which we could start in that journey, and just repealing the rifts, and repealing all all of the all of the divisiveness and colleagues and all, is not to stand in 13:46 judgment of each other. 13:47 You don't know the full picture. 13:48 You don't know the totality of it. 13:50 So, R' Eliezer, according to R' Eliezer Shita, these people are eating treif. 13:54 But yet he doesn't say it. 13:56 Af ain asiditin esadin. 13:58 Don't give judgment. Okay, because R' Shprakh judges ultimately again what's right and what's wrong. 14:02 I wouldn't eat it. 14:03 I don't think it's kosher. 14:04 But I'm also not going to verbally condemn another Jew. 14:08 Instead, again, I'm not going to judge. 14:10 I'll leave judgment ultimately for the Ribono shel Olam. 14:13 Incredible. Ever Orev v'chol min Orev. 14:16 So, again, R' Abahu says, "What When the possuk says Orev, it means the raven, and any any other thing that's in the raven family." 14:21 Now, again, R' Abahu says, "The challenge, of course, over here is that we don't know what that includes." 14:26 So, the the this If you begin to see what's happening over here when it comes to birds, the problem or the challenge just seems to be getting compounded over and over and over. 14:36 So, now, for example, we have the list of 24, but now it's more than 24, right? 14:40 Because the Torah itself already tells us that at least in the case of the Orev, there are other birds that fit into the Orev family category. 14:48 And we don't know what they are. 14:50 Yet, ultimately, again, there is liability. 14:52 R' Nachman bar Abba said, saw. 14:56 Therefore, the possuk says, Of habab siman echad, tahor. 15:00 So, what does it say now? 15:01 Watch this. R' Nachman bar Abba said, "Halacha l'maaseh, any bird which presents with one of the four kosher characteristics is kosher." 15:10 Now, again, R' Abahu says, "Obviously, the caveat to that is the caveat to that is that it's not on the list, right? 15:15 It's not on the list of 24 non-kosher birds, because obviously, again, on that list of 24 non-kosher birds, there are birds which present with kosher simanim, right? 15:23 The orev, the peres, the aznia, and in fact every single other one of them except for what? 15:29 Except for the nesher, right? 15:30 The Gemara says it's very important. 15:32 On the list of 24 birds that are not kosher, the only bird on that list that has no kosher characteristics is the nesher, which we loosely translate as the eagle. 15:42 Every other bird on that list has at least one kosher characteristic. 15:47 So when a Memra comes along, a Memra says any bird which presents with one kosher characteristic is going to be kosher as long as what? 15:54 As long as what? 15:55 It's not on that list. 15:56 Furthermore, the who the low daris. 15:59 And again, I will say here's what's very interesting. 16:01 A Memra comes along and he says really, the defining quality for non-kosher birds is that they grab. 16:08 And again, I will say generally, when birds grab, generally what that is associated with is they're predatory birds in some way. 16:17 That That That seems to be the defining characteristic of a non-kosher bird. 16:22 A non-kosher bird will be a bird that doesn't peck and eat, but rather again, grabs and eats. 16:28 So therefore, a Memra says as long as a bird presents with at least one kosher characteristic and it does not grab its food and you know for sure that it's not one of the 24 on the list of non-kosher birds, 16:43 you're good to go. 16:44 You're good to go. 16:45 So the Gemara says, "Amora Lavaya Shila Memra." 16:47 Hadra Rav Nachman in my. 16:49 What about Rav Nachman? 16:50 Rav Nachman said, right? 16:51 Again, I will say Rav Nachman seemed to indicate that all come back to you again. 16:55 Don't you remember again? 16:56 Rav Nachman said, "All of this is only true if halacha l'maaseh, you know what the peres and aznia is, right?" 17:02 Because Rav Nachman said, "If you don't know which bird is the peres and aznia, then even if a bird presents with with one kosher characteristic, you still have to be concerned that it's the peres and aznia." 17:13 To which the Gemara says, "Amora Lavaya Shimi Ali." 17:15 A Memra said, "Oh, I never heard of Nachman's ruling." 17:17 To his credit he says no, no, no, he heard it. 17:20 low severely. I don't hold of Ram Nachman's ruling. 17:23 Why not? Might he go mission Parson Osnia. 17:27 Cuz what is Ram Nachman concerned about? 17:28 Ram Nachman is concerned about the Parson Osnia. 17:30 That's what he's concerned because these are birds with one kosher characteristic. 17:34 Parson Osnia less than who be issue. 17:38 But the Parson Osnia both say they don't exist in inhabited areas. 17:43 So therefore again it's very interesting. 17:45 I mean my said you see a bird. 17:48 If you see a bird that has one kosher characteristic and it does not grab its food, that is a kosher bird. 17:55 I what about Parson Osnia? 17:57 Parson Osnia are not found in our inhabited areas and therefore there is nothing to be worried about. 18:03 Fascinating. So we'll say so this this is a pretty dramatic statement, right? 18:07 Cuz I mean we're just coming along and saying he's saying a local of my saw. 18:10 As long as the bird presents with at least one kosher simon and it's not Doris and it doesn't grab and eat, you can eat the bird. 18:17 You can eat the bird. 18:17 Which which is really which is really quite fascinating. 18:21 I'm going to review the I'm going to review the So I say so again, we're going to see we're going to get we're going to spend a few moments hopefully towards the end of this year on the Shulchan Aruch. 18:28 Even though again we're not finished with the sugar but I do want to give you a little bit of clarity with this. 18:31 I'm going to review the all from a sorry kashla Parson Osnia. 18:34 Let's listen to this. 18:35 So we know that as part of the purification process for the metzora, ultimately again there are birds that are brought. 18:41 So the Gemara says something very interesting. 18:43 Literally again a bird that scratches is used can be used for the metzora purification process. 18:49 Now what does that mean? 18:51 Rashi says over here Parson metzora should see for her amber but aura. 18:55 Okay, the zohi So what say we're going to see essentially is that for the metzora you really use a bird ultimately again that is like a free-spirited or a or a live on its own type of bird. 19:08 So the idea is that a bird that scratches will be a bird that gets away from anything that tries to confine it. 19:14 So, therefore, a scratching bird that scratches, you could use for the metzora purification process. 19:20 Okay? So, the Gemara says, "Bizuihi sinunit lavana shenekhlu bar Rebbi Elazar and by the way, the bird that they're referring to over here, what's this scratching bird? 19:28 That's also known as the white sinunit." 19:31 Now, if you remember again, the white sinunit was subject to machlokes ultimately again between Rebbi Elazar and the chachamim whether or not it's a kosher bird. 19:39 Am Rebbi Meir Rebbi Meir says, "Bichiyura karsa kulei alma lo pligei disharya." 19:44 Now, let's all listen to this. 19:44 If we're talking about a bird this sinunit bird, if we're talking about a sinunit bird that has a white stomach, right? 19:53 A white stomach, everyone agrees that it's kosher. 19:56 Okay? Cuz Rebbi Meir says remember again, for the for the process of the metzora, you must use kosher birds. 20:02 So, therefore, again, everyone agrees that if you have a sinunit bird with a white stomach, that it is usable, it's kosher. 20:08 Keep leigu, where's the machlokes? 20:09 Biruka karsa. Rebbi Meir says remember again, we mentioned in couple of I don't know if I guess maybe last week we're speaking about the insides of the animal and the Mishna said that if the insides are yarok. 20:22 So, remember I mentioned the idea that yarok is one of these words that when used in the Gemara could use could mean either yellow or green. 20:30 And previously, the context was green. 20:32 Here, interestingly enough, Rashi points out that it's yellow. 20:35 It's yellow. So, keep leigu, where's the machlokes? 20:37 Biruka karsa. If you have a sinunit bird with a yellow stomach, Rebbi Elazar Rebbi Elazar says that it's assur. 20:43 V'Rabbanan sharru and ultimately again, the Rabbanan say that it's mutar. 20:47 V'halacha k'Rebbi Elazar and the halacha ultimately again is like Rebbi Elazar that you can't use the sinunit bird with the yellow stomach. 20:55 Mazucha masticha ki. Mazucha a different version of this. 20:59 Bi bi bi bi bi diroka krisa kulei alma lo pligei d'assur. 21:04 If the bird has a yellow If the sinunit bird has a yellow stomach, everyone agrees that it's going to be ossur. 21:09 So, keep leigu, where's the but the you got car so ultimately again when it has a white stomach. 21:15 Remember sorry says ultimately with a white stomach you can't use this because he also has a non-kosher species and then I bought on sale ultimately again that is more than I bought on the shower and I love like the bottom 21:30 ultimately again who say that it's motor. 21:32 So, I wish I want to be here car so pretty according to the opinion that says that with the white stomach they argue highly addictive Tony so he knew this Lavana. 21:42 So, make sense because then the message before this is the white sunnis. 21:47 This is the white sunnis and the man down but he wrote the pretty but according to the opinion that says that they are going ultimately again when it has a yellow stomach my so he knew this Lavana. 21:58 So, then why does it call the sunnis Lavana and if it has a green stomach or yellow stomach why they calling it sunnis Lavana? 22:03 La Fuca This comes to exclude ultimately again a black bird. 22:11 Okay. I'm a bummer of you that the seal possible mission the question mission because what's the very interesting. 22:18 So, there's another bird called the seal bird that's the name of the bird. 22:22 So, save memory again we saw this also earlier in the so there are two different birds that you could use for carbonos. 22:30 Or a banana now okay so leaving aside so normally we go ahead and we have a banana as young pigeons and tour as a turtle dove. 22:38 So, what's important to understand is they have different they have different what's the right word characteristics in order to be usable for carbonic purposes. 22:47 Banana have to be young they if they get too old they call it mature they're no longer usable. 22:55 The way to remember that is they're called banana right young turtle doves on the or young pigeons on the other hand tor, in order to be used, has to be mature. 23:05 If it's too young, ultimately again it can't be used as the carbon. 23:09 Okay, so now watch this. 23:11 So therefore the Gemara says over here, the Gemara says that to seal pasul mishum tarumah karshu mishum ben Yona. 23:17 So interestingly enough, Rachba says essentially this the seal bird, it is in the category of of pigeons. 23:24 It's in the pigeon family. 23:25 Because it's in the pigeon family, it's only usable for a carbon if it's young. 23:30 If it gets old, it's no longer usable. 23:32 The Gemara goes like there at Sifi v'torim shalach. 23:36 Mishum ben Yona. At Sifi v'torim shalach ba shirim mishum torim pasul mishum ben Yona. 23:42 Similarly again, at Sifi, this is another type of bird. 23:45 Torim shalachba, this was another type of torim. 23:48 These are in the torim family. 23:50 So they are in they are in the turtledove family. 23:53 Therefore again about say, "What does that mean?" 23:55 Shir mishum ben Yona, which means they're kosher if they're mature. 23:58 U'pstulin mishum ben Yona. 24:00 But they are pasul ultimately again if they are too young. 24:04 Okay? Massive Rav Daniel bar Katina bar Katina. 24:07 So Rav Daniel bar Katina raised the question, "Kol ha'ofos amei base Kol ha'ofos psulin b'mei chatas." 24:15 So what's really very interesting, all birds all birds invalidate parah adumah water. 24:20 Now what does this mean? 24:21 Take a look at Rashi just a moment. 24:22 Top Rashi seems to be quite interesting. 24:25 So psulin b'mei chatas b'mei chatas Rashi says, "Im shatsu mayim listen to this. 24:30 If you have a bird Now I'll say again remember again, water parah adumah take the ashes of parah adumah dri- mix it with spring water a couple of other errors the azov right yes some cedarwood yes some hyssop you mix 24:40 it all together. If you imagine for a moment see you have this receptacle you have this clear parah adumah water and a bird comes along and sips from the water. 24:50 So the Gemara now says that will invalidate the water. 24:53 Now why is that? 24:55 If you take a look at Rashi, psulin b- b- psulin b'mei chatas im shatsu mayim >> Listen to this. 25:06 So, if the birds go ahead and drink from this water, so ultimately again they will invalidate it. 25:12 Why? Because of what they when the birds drink from water, they don't suck. 25:16 Rather, what do they do? 25:18 They take in water, they lift up their head, and like kind of like I don't know what the technical term is, gurgle it back, right? 25:24 So, they they they scoop up, lift their head back, and then it the water goes down. 25:29 So, listen to this. 25:33 As a result of that, there's some dribble. 25:35 Right? So, in other words, they scoop up the they scoop up So, in other words, they scoop up the water, move their head back, and then there's some dribble. 25:41 There's some water that falls out from the side of their beak, the side of their mouth. 25:45 Now, as a result of that, the shin asses the Now, again, we'll say par aduma water becomes invalidated if you work with it. 25:53 If you use it for any type of work, you use it for anything else other than other than the actual par aduma service. 25:59 So, the issue over here is that since this water was inside of the animal, right? 26:04 So, again, it went into the mouth of the animal, the animal kind of gurgled it back, some of it dribbled out, that will invalidate the par aduma water. 26:12 Incredible. Incredible. So, we'll go back to the Gemara. 26:15 So, therefore again, the Gemara says over here, the Gemara says, so this was Rav Daniel bar Ketina bar Ketina said, all birds, when they go ahead and they drink from the par aduma water, from the par aduma waters, they invalidate 26:26 it. Hutz, with the exception of Hutz min ha Yona, except for the Yona. 26:32 Again, we'll say that's interesting, by the way. 26:33 Yona is normally translated as dove. 26:36 In this context, interestingly enough, often the translation that's used is pigeon, right? 26:40 Which is also fascinating. 26:41 Okay, except for the Yona. 26:43 Why? Because she sucks us. 26:45 This is fascinating, because the Yona sucks. 26:48 Now, what does that mean? 26:49 When the Yona goes ahead and drinks, it like just it like That was yes. 26:55 I could do that again if that's helpful. 26:57 Right? So again, it it it it sucks in the water. 27:00 The idea over here is that when it drinks, it just pulls it in and therefore there's no dribble that comes out. 27:06 No dribble, right? So in other words, two different types of bird drinkage, right? 27:10 So again, either either there is the there is the we'll call it I'm trying to think of a good Yeah, I guess it's like it's like it's like the slurp and swallow where like, you know, again, the the bird goes 27:22 in, right? Takes in some of the water, lifts its head back, right? 27:26 Or there's just the suck, right? 27:28 So again, if it's the slurp and swallow, there's the issue of the dribble that comes out. 27:32 That will invalidate the para aduma water because again, some of the some of the dribble goes back into the para aduma water as opposed to just the straight suck and drink, which ultimately again, there's no dribble as a result of 27:45 that, the Gemara says. 27:47 So watch this. V Mesa. 27:48 Now again, the same this is true. 27:50 V Mesa. Listen he cuts me Yona V to seal. 27:54 Now again, if at the end of the day if at the end of the day, as we said before, that the to seal bird is truly in the pigeon family, then ultimately again, ultimately ultimately the the to seal should be 28:08 included in this as well. 28:09 So what does the Gemara say? 28:10 Rabbi Zeira, listen to this. 28:12 Rabbi Zeira says, "Z mot say to me key V Z mot say to V no key." 28:17 So what does he say here's the difference. 28:20 Rabbi Zeira says as follows. 28:21 Rabbi Zeira says, "This one is very interesting. 28:23 This one mot say to me key means literally it sucks, but ultimately making means it spits some back." 28:29 Spits some back. This one ultimately sucks and does not spit one back. 28:32 So the Mesa what the Gemara is pointing out over here is everything depends every however there's nothing depends back and forth over here with this whole thing. 28:40 Whatever whatever's going on with the text exchange. 28:42 Oh, right. I I as I see I see what's happening here. 28:45 Right? So so so so the Mesa so the the the mind says as follows. 28:49 So, there are different different birds different birds that drink in different ways. 28:52 So, bottom line what it comes down to is like this. 28:55 If the bird drinks in a way where there's dribble that comes out, it's going to invalidate the par adumah waters. 29:01 If halacha l'maaseh again, it just drinks straight and there's no dribble, then halacha l'maaseh is going to be fine. 29:08 Okay, incredible. Am Rebbi Yehudah. 29:11 You know what I'm saying? 29:12 Point over here is you begin to see the ambiguity. 29:15 It It would be wonderful to say that we're getting greater clarity on this Sugya as we go through it. 29:20 We're not obviously because the problem we just keep getting into is not knowing definitions. 29:25 And what I'm saying this is what's so profound about this. 29:27 Halacha is all about definitions. 29:29 Gemara is all about definitions. 29:30 All about creating categories. 29:32 Right? All about creating rules. 29:33 The problem just is over here we have actually excellent rule that there are 24 birds that are not kosher. 29:38 The problem just is we don't know the definitions of their names. 29:40 So, because of that when we come up with other birds and this was like this was like that. 29:44 But, if you don't know the core definitions of the birds. 29:46 So, again, here it happens to be there's an important halacha not only to do with kashrus, but happy to do with the waters of parah adumah, which is if the bird drinks and some of it gets back in, right? 29:54 It dribbles out, halacha l'maaseh it's going to invalidate the parah adumah. 29:57 But, okay, let's let's go back there. 29:59 Am Rebbi Yehudah will say am Rebbi Yehudah 62b four lines up from the Am Rebbi Yehudah. 30:04 Honey, kofshani, tzu'tzani, she'eilin l'gabei mizbei'ach. 30:08 Okay. So, what does it say? 30:09 Rebbi Yehudah says these birds this is the name of the bird. 30:12 Kofshani, tzu'tzani. It's a mouthful. 30:14 Right? So, these kofshani, tzu'tzani birds, they are kosher to be used for sacrificial purposes, right? 30:20 V'hein hein torim shel rachamim. 30:23 By the way, that's the same thing as the rachamim torim that we just mentioned before. 30:27 Okay, same category. So, Gemara says basically there's a kasha. 30:31 Eizo, listen to this what it says is very interesting. 30:33 Now, so, what the Gemara just did by the way is that in the category of torim, right? 30:38 So, remember to what's important about torim? 30:41 The torim tells me that I could go ahead and use toron for sacrificial purposes. 30:45 Okay, I can use it for sacrificial purposes. 30:47 Now the gemara says now the gemara says that halacha l'maaseh, there's something else included in the toron family. 30:54 What else is included? 30:55 This other bird called toron shalachba. 30:58 That's the name of the bird. 30:59 The shalachba toron, those are also included. 31:01 Whereas it says "Oh, that's a problem." 31:02 Why? Watch this. Meisim, where is the kasha? 31:05 Ezov, now the gemara will say remember again, when do you use ezov? 31:10 Ezov is the hyssop plant. 31:11 So remember again for parah adumah, for parah adumah, when you're making the mixture of the parah adumah waters, so remember again, you have parah adumah ashes, you have water, and you also have ezov. 31:22 You also have hyssop, right? 31:23 Hyssop is actually used for part of the reason hyssop is used is because the hyssop is dunked, is dipped into the water, and the hyssop is actually what you use to go ahead and sprinkle the water on the person who 31:33 is tamei. So the gemara says "Ezov, you can use ezov, hyssop, v'lo ezov ya'on." 31:39 But you can't use ya'on ezov. 31:41 "V'lo ezov kochli." And you can't use blue ezov. 31:45 "V'lo ezov romi." You can't use a roman ezov. 31:49 "V'lo midbari." You can't use desert ezov. 31:54 "V'lo kol ezov she'yesh lo shem l'vai." 31:57 The gemara says you cannot use any other ezov that has a descriptive name. 32:02 Now, what does this mean? 32:03 What kind of ezov can you use? 32:04 What kind of ezov can you use? 32:06 Something that's just called ezov. 32:09 But once it's called something other than plain ezov, you can't use it. 32:13 That's what it's called. 32:14 What does it say? 32:14 A shem l'vai means another descriptive name. 32:17 If it has another descriptive name, you can't use it. 32:20 So the gemara says so again, why is the gemara bringing this up? 32:23 Because we would assume that this rule applies for anything sacrificial. 32:27 And therefore, and therefore what? 32:29 And therefore halacha l'maaseh, halacha l'maaseh, what we call the toron rachba, the rachba toron, should also not be usable for korbanic purposes. 32:37 Why? Because they're not called Torin. 32:39 What are they called? 32:40 They're called Rachtorim. But we just said before that anything that has any type of additional like descriptive name attached to it shouldn't really be usable. 32:48 To which the Raba says, listen to this. 32:50 Kosher is not a small code in Torah. 32:53 The Pita Torah is not a small puzzle. 32:56 So what's listen to this. 32:57 Anything that had an additional descriptive name before Matan Torah, it was known by by its core name and descriptive name. 33:04 And Torah goes out of its way to use its core name and not its descriptive name, that means the Torah is not good on it. 33:12 So for example, for example, when it comes to hissop, right? 33:15 Before even before Matan Torah, there are all these different types of hissop. 33:18 Yet the Torah says the only thing you could use is Azov, which tells you the only thing you can use is is something called Azov. 33:25 But if it has any type of other modifier, any other type of descriptive name attached to it, it is possible. 33:33 However, the honey, when it comes to these birds, they were not around before Matan Torah. 33:38 So interestingly enough, these names the Rachtorim were not around before Matan Torah. 33:43 So because of that, again, therefore their descriptive names will not invalidate them for use. 33:48 Okay, fascinating. Raba says, honey is not a small thing. 33:53 The honey is not a small thing. 33:55 So Raba gives a different answer. 33:56 Raba says, by the way, these these honey are not a small thing. 34:01 Because these were another type of birds that were also known as a type of honey. 34:05 Rashi says, Torin the lotion are my small thing. 34:08 So honey means Torin. 34:10 So and honey is name of a place. 34:13 So these honey Torin are usable for are usable for carbon purposes. 34:17 I, but they have a descriptive name. 34:20 To which the Raba says, in their place in China, in China, they're only known as Torin. 34:25 So because in their in their core place they have no additional descriptive name, therefore they are not usable. 34:31 They can be used. 34:32 Incredible. All right, let's go back there. 34:34 I'm going to be Huda. 34:35 Honey Karazi the Bay Hilfi Shara. 34:37 So, we'll say these these birds these are actually very interesting. 34:41 Rashi says over here Rashi says over here Karazi is Hagovin grasshoppers. 34:46 So, again we're going to transition here again we're not finished with birds. 34:49 Again we'll say we at this point in time it is absolutely unequivocally clear what is a kosher bird, right? 34:56 Just just it's fascinating to see how to go into this Sugya it's really not clear. 35:00 Again, if I knew all 24 things on the list it's very clear, but given that there's a tremendous amount of ambiguity around anything on that list it is not clear at all what is a kosher bird. 35:10 So, again we we're not finished yet with this. 35:12 The Mishna is going on a bit of a detour. 35:13 Listen to this. Sahani Karazi the Bay Hilfi So, Karazi Rashi points out over here are Hagovin grasshoppers. 35:21 The grasshoppers ultimately again the Bay Hilfi that live in the reeds. 35:26 So, reed grasshoppers Shara are permitted for consumption. 35:30 But the Bay but the Bay Karvi Asiri. 35:33 But ultimately again the grasshoppers of Bay Karvi okay, this was another type of grasshopper, right? 35:39 Rashi says over here Bay Karvi Karvi means Krov cabbage. 35:42 So, the the grasshoppers that live in the cabbage fields so cabbage patch cabbage patch grasshoppers ultimately not very popular with the kids, right? 35:51 Cabbage right? Cabbage patch grasshoppers ultimately again those are those are going to be assur, but interestingly enough read patch grasshoppers those are going to be muttar. 36:02 How do you remember that? 36:03 I'm going to be Huda. 36:04 So, the Gemara says We'll mark you not liable. 36:06 By the way, if you eat cabbage patch grasshoppers you get Malkus cuz you eat something treif. 36:11 Mishum Sharat Tzov because of flying Shratzin. 36:13 Okay, incredible. So, we'll say so that's so that's just Halacha. 36:16 So, cabbage patch grasshoppers is assur if you eat it again you get Malkus for eating like flying insects and ultimately read patch grasshoppers are going to be muttar. 36:24 Rabbi Yehuda Rabbi Yehuda said Sarda Shari Barda Assur. 36:30 So, okay. We'll say, "What now? 36:31 What What is this?" 36:32 Sarda rash says it's better than never back to birds. 36:37 Back to birds. So, we who does say that sarda bird is motor, the barda bird is assar. 36:42 The simonic way to remember that is bar minay. 36:45 Bar minay means except for you. 36:47 So, it's a little bit of a play on words. 36:48 Barda bar minay except for you, you're not kosher. 36:52 Marda sfiga. The marda bird suffocate whether or not it's kosher or not. 36:56 Amravasi Amravasi says, "Shmona sfiga say in general in the world of birds, there are eight different sfigas. 37:02 Eight different types of birds that we're not sure exactly what their status is." 37:06 What So, what are What are the eight? 37:07 Khova, khoga, suga, harnuga, trushlami, marda, kukhlona, barnafta. 37:17 Okay, those are Those are our eight sfiga birds. 37:20 My sfiga who So, we'll say, "So, what what is it? 37:23 Like what is it about these birds?" 37:25 Ultimately, again, they're making them a sfiga. 37:27 And again, we'll say, "Remember again, it's We're going to see just It seems to be based on what a mayor said on amud aleph. 37:35 It must be clear that all of these birds do possess one quality, which is they're not dores. 37:41 Right? They don't grab and eat because it is clear from the gemara that that is the one quality that out of the gate will disqualify you as as a kosher bird. 37:50 If you're grabbing and eating, that is no longer a kosher bird." 37:53 So, okay. So, what what But, what's the sfiga about these? 37:56 This is very interesting. 37:57 My sfiga who of all stories. 38:00 Korki banan niklaf. Utamein ein korki banan niklaf. 38:05 So, what's in general we have a rule. 38:06 What's the rule? We saw kosher birds, their gizzard is easily peeled. 38:10 Easily peeled. Non-kosher birds, the gizzard is not peelable. 38:15 So, what's the issue with these birds? 38:17 Vahani korki banan niklaf besakina. 38:20 Ultimately, again, these eight birds, their gizzard could be peeled, but what? 38:25 Not by hand, only by use of a knife. 38:27 So, the So, that was a something. 38:29 Does that mean Does that mean that it's a peelable gizzard, right? 38:32 Or not? Or maybe peelable gizzard means only if it can be done by hand, not by knife. 38:37 I One second. One second. 38:44 There was a story once about a goose, right? 38:47 In the house of and a goose. 38:49 Everyone is agreeing, of course, is a kosher animal. 38:52 In the house of that they were unable to go ahead and peel the gizzard. 38:57 So, what did they do? 39:00 They put the gizzard in the sun. 39:02 The The And once it got warm once it warmed up a little bit, they were able to peel it. 39:07 So, what does that mean? 39:08 That would seem to indicate that even if it's not immediately peelable, it's still kosher. 39:13 So, therefore, I would say that even these eight birds, if the gizzard is peelable by knife, that should satisfy the criteria of peelable and it should be kosher. 39:19 No, here's a difference. 39:23 With whatever the Whatever the reason, that bird had a had a tougher gizzard, right? 39:28 But once you warmed it up a little bit in the sun, it was peelable by hand. 39:33 With these other eight birds, even if the gizzard is made softer, it can't be peeled by hand. 39:41 Ultimately, again, it can't be peeled by hand. 39:44 It can only be peeled by knife. 39:46 So, that's that's the shaila, given the fact that these birds can never have a peelable by hand only by knife. 39:53 Does that make them kosher or treif? 39:55 Incredible. Let's go back there. 39:57 I'm just telling you golden I wish I could say so. 40:02 The The which means literally again, like the rooster, right? 40:07 Or the hen, right? 40:08 Rooster. The rooster of the swamp. 40:10 A swamp rooster A swamp rooster is one of these eight species. 40:15 One of these eight. 40:16 Hava Marzu. It's also So apparently the swamp rooster is also known as the Marzu. 40:21 Okay, good to know. 40:22 Amna Papa, Tarna Gol Agma Asura. 40:25 Listen to this. The swamp rooster is assur. 40:28 Tarna Golta Agma Sharia. 40:31 But the the sorry this right the swamp rooster is assur, but the swamp hen the swamp hen is going to be muttar. 40:38 Now again I will say it it can't be it can't be that this is the same animal different genders, right? 40:44 Because why why do you know that? 40:46 Because there's no such thing in Halacha of of of like you have a type animal and the male is assur and the female is kosher. 40:53 That doesn't make any sense. 40:54 So it must be that even though one is called the swamp rooster and one is called the swamp hen, they're actually two different they're two different birds. 41:01 Two different birds. So the swamp rooster is going to be assur, the swamp hen is going to be muttar. 41:06 How do you remember this difference? 41:07 The siman Amoni v'Amonis. 41:10 This is so yeah I see. 41:11 So I say how do you remember it? 41:12 You remember again because the pasuk says lo yavo Amoni one of the Kal Yisrael. 41:15 An Ammonite is not permitted to go ahead and marry into the assembly of Kal Yisrael, but that only applies to the man, doesn't apply to the woman. 41:24 Doesn't apply to the woman. 41:24 And therefore again that's the way to remember it. 41:26 It only applies to the swamp rooster, doesn't apply to the swamp hen. 41:31 Incredible. Darsh Maramar, Tarna Golta Agma Asura. 41:35 Ultimately and so Maramar said, the swamp rooster is assur. 41:39 Why? Because Yua did Darsh Achla. 41:41 Because we've seen it we see that when it eats it grabs and eats. 41:45 It grabs and eats. 41:46 V'ainu Girusa and this is also the bird known as the Girusa. 41:52 Okay. So what is the Gemara just gives other birds now. 41:54 Amar Rav, Rav said Shavor and and Shavor and and Parta. 41:59 Yeah sorry. And And Rafta. 42:01 And Rafta. Right? The Shavor and Rafta bird is Shari. 42:05 Ultimately again is Shari uh Shari, right? 42:10 So okay. So these these are the names of birds. 42:13 So, Shavar and Parta, that bird is motor. 42:16 Piros and Parta, osser. 42:19 But, the bird known as Piros and Parta, that ultimately again is going to be osser. 42:23 Okay? How do you remember which one is which? 42:26 This is money. Piros Rasha. 42:29 The way to remember it is that Piros was a Rasha. 42:31 Who was Piros? If you look at Rashi, this is four lines up from the bottom of Rashi. 42:35 Piros Rasha, shame Adam shall mukhsak Rasha be named. 42:39 So, apparently there was a guy named Piros who everyone knew was a big Rasha. 42:44 Okay? So, he had a reputation. 42:46 So, therefore again the boss says it's important. 42:47 So, the bird that's known as Shavar and Parta, that's a kosher bird. 42:51 But, Piros and Parta is a treif bird. 42:54 And the way to remember that is because the guy Piros was a big Rasha. 42:58 Okay? You must say I'm not Puna. 42:59 I'm not Puna. Bunyo Shari. 43:02 A bird known as Bunyo is motor. 43:05 Paru, osser. But, the bird known as Paru, that is going to be osser. 43:09 This is money. How do you remember that? 43:11 Perua Amagusha. Because a guy by the name of Perua was a sorcerer. 43:17 Was a sorcerer? Sorcery is osser. 43:20 Sorcery is osser. And therefore Allah says my son, the bird that's known as the Paru is treif. 43:24 It's not kosher. And I will say I want to share something very interesting over here. 43:27 If you look at the last Rashi on the daf, Perua Amagusha, Rashi says shame khashif who will osser lishkas beis aparim sekhashuma. 43:35 You know what I'm saying? 43:36 Listen to this. This guy Perua was a sorcerer. 43:39 Was a sorcerer? Obviously sorcery bad. 43:42 Right? Sorcery bad. Is it da or da osser? 43:44 Interestingly enough, this guy became a baal teshuvah and he helped to construct one of the one of the chambers in the Beis Hamikdash. 43:51 A chamber by the name of Beis Aparvo. 43:53 Right? So, we'll say, so why is this interesting? 43:56 It's interesting because obviously he became a baal teshuvah. 43:58 So, if you become a baal teshuvah, one of the halakhas of a baal teshuvah is that what are you not supposed to do? 44:02 You're not supposed to remind them of their past. 44:03 Right? So, if someone comes about teshuvah, ah, you must have really missed eating treif. 44:07 Right? Right. Must be really difficult for you. 44:10 Oh wow, what is it like not to drive on Shabbos? 44:12 Must be right. Really must be so inconvenient. 44:14 You're not allowed to do that. 44:15 A person comes about shiva. 44:16 Ultimately again, you don't you don't remind anybody shiva and of their past. 44:20 And that's in general. 44:21 Person committed a particular avira, but they stopped doing that. 44:24 You don't remind the person of their past. 44:26 That's the way the halacha works. 44:28 So it's fascinating in the gemara over here that this guy Perua this guy Perua who was a sorcerer, yet became a baal teshuvah. 44:37 He has to both say the way that we're remembering the name of a non-kosher bird is by using his name. 44:43 Right? That the Paru bird the Paru bird is going to be us Oh, what's his name? 44:46 Do you remember that? 44:46 Because Perua Amagusha, there was Perua the sorcerer. 44:49 But he was a baal teshuvah. 44:51 He was a baal teshuvah. 44:52 So I'll say could very well be that the most skilled is that yes, you don't remind a baal teshuvah of their past. 44:57 That is absolutely unequivocally true. 44:58 However, it is always important for us to understand that as much as you could do teshuvah for anything and everything, sometimes in life you do create irreversible realities. 45:09 In the world of s'char and onesh, in the world of reward and punishment, can you undo can you reverse things? 45:15 Absolutely. Absolutely you could reverse things. 45:18 But at the end of the day, our actions sometimes create irreversible realities. 45:23 [clears throat] I can be a baal teshuvah and I could set the record straight by Kodesh Baruchu. 45:28 But that does not necessarily mean that I can undo the things that I do in life. 45:33 And I'll say this is one of the hardest things I think we all live with this in certain ways, right? 45:38 All of us have done things which cannot be undone. 45:42 And then to be saddled with the pain of actions which cannot be reversed is one of the most overwhelming and difficult things to live with in this world. 45:50 But it's reality nevertheless. 45:52 So I don't know what this guy Perua did. 45:53 Obviously he was a baal teshuvah and he built and he went ahead and he built this beautiful chamber in the Beis Hamikdash. 45:58 But at the end of the day, at the end of the day he must have created certain irreversible consequences. 46:04 Hence, Hazal went ahead and when they wanted to remember the name of a non-kosher bird, utilized this marbos eye. 46:10 Sensitizes us to how we live, how we live, how we make decisions, how we move forward in life because again, we always know that chuva's possible and we could always reset the slate with that Kodesh Baruch Hu. 46:21 But we have to be careful because there are things that you do in this world that cannot be reversed. 46:26 Be so careful before we act, before we do cuz we always think that there's a way to back out of things, but the Mishna says there are certain realities in this world which have irreversible consequences. 46:35 Therefore, choose wisely. The Gemara goes like Amora Papa. 46:38 Amora Papa says, "Mardu ziged mardu ziged v'ochel shari." 46:44 Yesh what they're saying, "This is the name of a bird." 46:46 Those three words. "Mardu ziged v'ochel." 46:49 This is the name of a bird which literally me- means, right? 46:51 It stands straight a bird that stands straight and eat and eats. 46:56 That's right, that's ultimately a kosher bird. 46:58 "Sugit v'ochel." But the bird that is known as the one that bends, that is going to be assur. 47:03 "V'simanach in the pasuk, how do I remember which one is which? 47:05 V'simanach, lo tishtachaveh la'el acher." 47:09 Don't bow down to another god. 47:11 Don't worship idolatry. So what is he saying? 47:12 So what is he learning here? 47:13 So therefore, the bird that stands erect, right? 47:15 And eats, that's fine. 47:17 The bird that bows down, that's going to be assur. 47:19 Incredible. Amora Shmuel. Shmuel says, "Shasya chamra asura." 47:23 The There's a bird that's known as the wine drinker, right? 47:27 The bird the wine drinker, sounds delicious, right? 47:29 The wine drinker bird is going to be assur. 47:31 How do you know this? 47:32 "V'simanach, shasuyei yayin pasul la'avoda." 47:36 Ultimately again what they're saying because a kohen who drinks wine, ultimately again can't do the avoda. 47:40 Amora Shmuel. Shmuel says, "Mazga chamra asura." 47:44 Literally again the bird These are the names of birds. 47:46 So the bird that's known as the mazga chamra, it's assur. 47:48 Top of samech gimel. 47:51 Top of samech gimel. 47:52 "Bas mazga chamra sharya." 47:54 But the bird that's known as the daughter of the diluted wine drinker. 47:58 Ultimately again, that's motor. 47:59 How do you remember which one is which? 48:01 Yafa kocha b'nei kocha av. 48:03 The way to remember this is sometimes the power of the son is greater than the power of the father. 48:08 So, in this case over here, right? 48:10 The bird that's known as the daughter, ultimately again is going to be is going to be motor, but the one that's known ultimately again as the parent is going to be assur. 48:17 So, I'll have to stop over here for today. 48:18 We'll pick up more more again we'll say tomorrow. 48:21 We'll get to the Shulchan Aruch and we'll say Hashem halacha l'maaseh greater level of clarity. 48:25 Shkoyach everyone. Everyone should have a great day.
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